Sd-7/9

[CNR Glen]

I'm working on an SD-7/9 scrapline engine and I need to know what roads had them. The Fallen Flags site is great but has too much infromation to wade through, trying to figure that all out, one road at a time.

 

[rock4329]

CNW, and MILW had them. SOO had one (SD7).
BN
SP
Either B&O or C&O had a few.
CB&Q
UP had SD24's, not sure on 7's or 9's though.
NS had a few. ( so did N&W).

Thats as far as I know.

 

[lmackattack]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMD_SD7

 

[UP2CSX]

Also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMD_SD9. They are two different engines, although the main spotting difference is the location of the classification lights.

 

[CNR Glen]

Thanks for your help, that's exactly what I needed.

Upon checking with the Wikipedia sites that you guys gave me both my engines are SD-7 with the classification lights centered above the number boards

 

[CBCNSfan]

Hi Glen, just a thought for you to consider regarding a paint scheme.
Consider one of the newer shortlines that bought their rail lines from CN or CP. Here in NS on the CB&CNS for a time there was a GP-18. This GP-18 was the only one ever or used in Canada. So a Short line which buys used rail power could have purchased a surplus SD-7 from any US RR. Being a bit more realistic before the cash crunch short lines painted their new purchases. Shortline color schemes were for the most part simple, one color with a contrasting trim color. CB&CNS was black body yellow trim or dark green and yellow. NBEC is black with contrasting white so for a scrap line a near by short line color would be a believable choice.
Just a thought
Cheers
Willis

 

[CNR Glen]

Thanks Willis. I should have mentioned that I was modelling 1959, long before the shortlines that you were mentioning came to be. I am considering painting it in Canadian National colors of the time, just like the other 'fantasy scheme' that I did on the other.

 

[jasonelki]

Southern Pacific had them too. Here's a photo of the first SD7 (Illinois Railway Musuem) with my daughter and I serious grins! It was rusty as heck but very cool.

 

[CNR Glen]

Thanks for the picture Jason. The rusty condition is a big help with the furture weathering of my engine.

 

[jasonelki]

Thanks for the picture Jason. The rusty condition is a big help with the furture weathering of my engine.

No prob. Here's another photo of the same loco, a side shot. I thought the small fuel tank was neat. Good luck with the painting!

 

[CNR Glen]

I know Canadian National made several light GP-9's giving them smaller fuel tanks and special trucks for the prairie branchlines that had lightweight rail, maybe that's what the SD's tank was for.....

 

[UP2CSX]

That short fuel tank SD-7 was one of a series that ran on the Northwestern Pacific for many years. There were a number of bridge restrictions and, at one time, it wasn't unusual for the NWP branch to have 70 car trains of lumber led by 7 or 8 SD-7s. The fuel tanks were shortened and, if you look at the 1518 next to a normal SD-7, you'll also see a fair bit of the underframe was also shaved off, so the wheel loadings would be within the weight limits of the bridges. This all ended in 1982, when the flood of the century took out most of the line in the Eel River Canyon. The line was abandoned from Eureka to Willits and then leased to a shortline operator, the Eureka Southern, which reopened the line from Willits to Eureka. This service lasted on and off until 1992, when a tunnel collapse closed the line for good. The SP then filed to abandon the entire south end of the line when the lumber mill in Fort Bragg, which fed most of the traffic to Willits, closed down the following year. The line was then purchased by a public agency, the North Coast Railroad Authority, and operated by the California Northern. The FRA closed the line in 1998 because the tracks were in such an unsafe condition. Since then, there are plans for a commuter railroad from Sausalito to Cloverdale and freight service to Willits. The commuter service has been pushed back to 2014 and the wonderful folks of California have assured that the freight service will make lots of money by limiting the trains to eight cars and NO hazardous materials of any kind. The NWP's long and sad history continues...

 

[cv_acr]

Thanks Willis. I should have mentioned that I was modelling 1959, long before the shortlines that you were mentioning came to be. I am considering painting it in Canadian National colors of the time, just like the other 'fantasy scheme' that I did on the other.

An SD7 and especially an SD9 would be pretty darn new in 1959; I'd be pretty surprised if anyone was getting rid of any at that point. Keep in mind CN was still using some steam engines in 1959. (The last revenue run in Canada was in 1960).

 

[CNR Glen]

I suppose they would be a newer engine (built 52-53) But it could have had a massive prime mover failure of some kind.

 

[cv_acr]

I suppose they would be a newer engine (built 52-53) But it could have had a massive prime mover failure of some kind.

Well, at that age they'd probably still rebuild it. (Might even be a warranty repair) On the other hand, you could always paint it up fantasy for CN and just pretend that in your world they actually got some new. And since we're in the realm of "what-if" anyway you can justify as large or small a fleet as you wish that way.

 

[CNR Glen]

On the other hand, you could always paint it up fantasy for CN and just pretend that in your world they actually got some new. And since we're in the realm of "what-if" anyway you can justify as large or small a fleet as you wish that way.

You mean like this:

I already built one almost factory fresh but I'd like to make a second out of spare parts and weather it like its got alot of miles on it.