Question about making a long track

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MustangMark83

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I have a back yard outside with a lot of room and I was thinking about taking up the whole garden with a model railroad. I'm not much of a gardener and I don't have any BBQ cookouts or a pool, so why not make a big model railroad? I just have a couple questions. How long can the tracks be until the train starts to lose power? I need to know how many of those speed control things I would have to use. Can it go 50 feet? 100 feet? And how do they work together, for instance if I used 3 speed controls, would I need to link them together somehow or can they all work individually? What about the locomotives strength, lets say I want 50 or 100 cars, can I use 2 or 3 locos together and will they perform at the same speed and help each other out, as a lack of better words, or would it screw up?

thanks
 
The trick would be to install a power bus to compensate for any voltage drops. some good thick wire like 10 or 12 gauge. I'm sure someone that has an outdoor setup will chime in.
 


Talking about an HO scale.
You are a brave man, I hope you like cleaning track :D

Anyway just the one controller is all that is needed, then a buss wires the length of your track, then drop wires from the tracks to the buss wires about every two or two & a half feet apart. Now that will get the current from the controller to the tracks but from the track to the the loco wheels will depend on how clean the track is. Outside in the elements the track will oxidize and the oxide will act as an insulator.

If you want to do outside I think most here will recommend "G" Scale or larger.
 
Willis gave you the right information about using a power buss with wires being soldered to the track every two or three feet. A single power pack can easily provide enough power for several hundred feet of track as long as there's good power distribution. The problem outside is that not only will the track oxidize, the power connections will also oxidize and the amount of voltage delivered to the track over time will deteriorate. I also don't know of any HO scale track that's made to withstand rigors of the weather. This really isn't a good idea. If you want a garden railway, G scale is the way to go. The track is made to stay outdoors and the weight of the locomotive is sufficiently heavy to overcome some of the electrical problems that are sure to plague you with HO scale.
 
ugh, I've already bought a couple hundred feet of HO tracks. I guess it's staying in the house then. Well luckily I'm a single man, so the train will be taking up most of the house , but up in the ceiling where it won't get in the way. thanks guys
 
The cost of a g scale track is insane. With all the products on the market nowadays, there's no chemical that I can possibly weatherproof an outdoor track?
 
Any chemical would more than likely cause additional problems. HO simply wasn't intended for outdoor layouts. It can't hurt to try but don't be disappointed if things don't work correctly after weather takes affect.
Good Luck
 


You could use HO products outdoors, but it takes a lot of work to make it semi-permanent and mostly reliable. You don't have to worry about the metal rails, but you do have to worry about what will accumulate on them every hour of every day. Instead, the plastic ties are going to need protection from the Sun and from acidic or other solvent-based materials that can basically rot them over time. Ballasting with a water-proof adhesive will help, and painting the ties before ballasting will help. You'd have to solder feeders every two sections of flextrack, and you would need the power bus mentioned above.

You would want a protected enclosure for your terminal posts so that you can reliably hook up the bus to your base station or transformer.

I can foresee major problems with turnouts over time, and not long. Turnouts cause the most headaches indoors, let alone outdoors, so double the probability of mechanical defects if you use them outdoors. Even handlaid turnouts using PCB ties will have the copper cladding corroding in wet weather....you'll have green ties ere long. If you can coat the ties with an epoxy and then paint them, you might be able to keep them in good condition for several years.

But your biggest headache, by far, will be in the amount of track cleaning you'll need to do, not the least of which will be ridding the area between the rails of any number of problems, including what gets in the way of the flanges. Then there's all that rail surface cleaning so that your trains don't grind to a sudden halt about 12 feet from their set-out points.

Really, the best system outdoors would be a larger unit that can carry a two or three 6 volt batteries around with them for power. They should be radio controlled, not controlled through a bus. Larger heavier units in the range of 10 kg won't be affected by detritus on the rails and between them to the extent our 0.8 kg HO models would.

-Crandell
 
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My vote is to build an outdoor railroad using live steam. You could model a M.O.W. train for yard work and build a flat car to haul garbage to the curb....
 




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