Power Pack question

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RIRRfan

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Hi all,
I have a "train Pack" from Model Rectifier Corp.
Input= 120 VAC, 60Hz
Output= 15VDC, 17 VAC
Total Output= 7.5 VA

This power pack has always been "good Nuff" in the past.

I am now getting serious about running my trains and will probably stay DC as I plan to only run one train at a time

Is this power pack still :good nuff" or should I look for a better one?

Any advice on power powers is appreciated.
 
If it's "good nuff" for you, then it's good enough....some of the newer packs may give you a little better low speed control, and some of the fancy doo-dads like pulse (better low speed) , momentum (your trains will speed up and slow down gradually when you change the throttle, brake (push it to stop), possibly some sound, ect. If you don't need want any of that stuff, your current pack should be plenty good for running one train, even with several engines.
 
twinpack is a solid supply.
had that but tried tech II . even the basic one (without momentum and fun stuff like that) was way nicer. provided for much more precise control.
 


I don't know what a replacement that would meet your needs would cost, but a DCC system can be found relatively inexpensively if you shop around, and all you would need would be a few $20 TCS or NEC decoders to install in your best performing engines. A DCC system would have BEMF and momentum/inertia provisions built-in by design. If you ever thought you'd enjoy doubling two engine of different kinds, DCC would allow you to do that with different gearing in the engines. You would need two engines essentially exactly the same in DC so that their drives did not compete with each other.

Just a thought. A lone operator using one DC engine, as you indicate you do, does make sense, but I don't know why the purchase of a second power pack would make sense when the one you have is working well. If it were me, having operated in both forms of powering rails, I would take the modernizing step of paying for DCC as the next 'upgrade', not a lateral step in DC, or one with undefined 'desires', as I sense you seem to have.

-Crandell
 
Well, I'm just not sure of the operation yet of the different types of power packs.
I know what DC and DCC means but not sure of all capabilities yet.

What I'm looking for is preformance in out put. I was able to get my hand on a new magnum pack and the total out put is 10VA as where the one I have is 7.5VA.

What would I gain by getting a pack with higher output?

If my posts don't make sense, that is because I am on some good flying meds right now... :)
 
What you would gain is the ability to run more locos.....each loco draws a certain amount of power ...at some point, the pack will "max out" and you will notice the pack getting very hot and your train not performing properly. The 10VA pack has 33% more power than your 7.5VA pack......not sure if this is significant for you or not......if your old pack wasn't causing problems, probably not. Doesn't hurt anything to have the extra power though.
 
Any DC power pack is designed to safely offer a certain measured maximum number of volts, and also the commensurate amperage, to drive toy locomotives. All the lights and motors therein require a piece of the finite pie coming down the output wires from the power pack.

One engine hauling a bunch of cars, struggling up a 2% grade, and in good running order, may take 12 volts or more, and about 0.8 amp. If you also have lots of street lighting and some signals operating from the same power pack, your system may be taxed, and may overheat. But it would be a worn or inferior product if all it could do was that.

A better (read "more powerful") pack would permit some street lighting, signals, and two or three hard-working engines. An even more powerful one would offer even more current to run more engines. But I understand that this is not the nature of your interest.

It is no different in DCC. The power supply plugged into a wall circuit can only throughput so much current. Every electronic item will insist on its designed share of that same finite pie. Even DCC systems overheat and will shut down if you ask them to do too much.

What I am saying is that if your current system meets and exceeds your needs, is there any other reason to want to part with some cash? If you have a hankering for "something else", maybe now is the time to seriously investigate all that DCC can offer you. If you like, we can cover some of that, but if you really are content with the way things work, including in DC, I would counsel against spending any money. When your circumstances change significantly, then would be the time to look at more power in whatever form makes sense.

If you are interested in some fancier operating capabilities with the engines, say smoother starting, and acceleration behaviours, I would tell you that DCC offers that and much more. On the other hand, a motor that behaves poorly in DC operations almost always runs as poorly, or even worse (!), in DCC.

-Crandell
 
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I didn't buy DCC but I did get an upgrade controller.

I got A Tech 4 200 Train Controller (ACCUTECH TECHNOLOGY).

I haven't set it up yet as I need to rewire the main wire to the track to make room for the larger sized controller.
 




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