Colorado Midland Modeler
Proudly modeling the CM, MT & SL in HO Scale
Wow! That does look like it fixed it pretty well, I'll have to keep that in mind myself. Looks great!
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I think it adds to the overall heaftyness of the model.
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Looks good! Nice work. Are you going to letter this for Pennsy, or do something freelance? I ask (not to rain on your parade here!) because Pennsy steam was painted Brunswick Green. We had a fanatical Pennsy guy in the club who has since passed away but he had loads of Pennsy steam on the club layout, all of it green. It's a very dark green. It has been described as "a 55 gallon drum of black with a quart of green mixed in". 
NOT criticizing, just asking. I get stuck in "prototypical accuracy mode". Black will work.
NOT criticizing, just asking. I get stuck in "prototypical accuracy mode". Black will work.
KriegslokBR52
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I might mix a bottle of Brunswick Green for a very light final coat... but this thing will be dirty, so I'm wondering if it's even worthwhile...oh yes it will be a Pennsy letered engine.Looks good! Nice work. Are you going to letter this for Pennsy, or do something freelance? I ask (not to rain on your parade here!) because Pennsy steam was painted Brunswick Green. We had a fanatical Pennsy guy in the club who has since passed away but he had loads of Pennsy steam on the club layout, all of it green. It's a very dark green. It has been described as "a 55 gallon drum of black with a quart of green mixed in".
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KriegslokBR52
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That was exactly my train of thought.
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I watch that channel all the time.
KriegslokBR52
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Next thing on the decapod was to put some detail on the frame area below the cab. Here on the right side i've had to remove the air tank because there is one already below the boiler and immediately behind power reverse. Studying as many pictures of the I1 decapods as i have, it was either below the cab, or below the boiler, but not both at the same time. So now i have this huge opening on the engineer side and toyish looking main frame as cast by Penn Line/Bowser:
While the left side is partially covered by an injector with associated piping, this right side is sticking out like a sore thumb.
Out came a very thin brass sheet and i started to cut a piece of main frame to somehow compose it into the rest of the model.
Here is the number 4483 and it shows how visible everything is on the engineer side:
4483 has two 4 cylinder compressors, one on each side, so the air tank was placed below the cab. Mine I1 has single compressor. With removed air tank the main frame with suspension spring is highly visible.
While the left side is partially covered by an injector with associated piping, this right side is sticking out like a sore thumb.
Out came a very thin brass sheet and i started to cut a piece of main frame to somehow compose it into the rest of the model.
Here is the number 4483 and it shows how visible everything is on the engineer side:
4483 has two 4 cylinder compressors, one on each side, so the air tank was placed below the cab. Mine I1 has single compressor. With removed air tank the main frame with suspension spring is highly visible.
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ME TOO!I watch that channel all the time.
Colorado Midland Modeler
Proudly modeling the CM, MT & SL in HO Scale
I don't know if it would be of any help, but here's some pictures of my I1 that you can use for reference if you want.
KriegslokBR52
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Much appreciated...and shows that brass manufacturers are taking shortcuts. You can definitely see the main frame, but the entire grate with ash dumps is completely missing. For some reason there's also barely a hint of an injector on the firemans side. What production is this?
Colorado Midland Modeler
Proudly modeling the CM, MT & SL in HO Scale
It's an older Sunset, I don't know the exact year. There are some mounting screws for the motor under there, maybe that's why they didn't include that detail, or somebody lost it along the way. I got it secondhand, so I don't know. I might just have to add one now.
KriegslokBR52
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I was wondering if Sunset, i think you've mentioned it before.
Colorado Midland Modeler
Proudly modeling the CM, MT & SL in HO Scale
I may have, I don't remember for sure.
Colorado Midland Modeler
Proudly modeling the CM, MT & SL in HO Scale
I was just looking at some other Sunset I1s, and it would seem that they're all built without the ash dumper. I'm kind of thinking it may have to do with the motor mount screws or possibly the drawbar attachment setup. It's funny some of the shortcuts that even higher end models sometimes have. I just got finished painting an Athearn F59PHI that I've had for awhile, and while I got it secondhand, I think it was fairly high end in its day, and I discovered while working on it that it didn't have windshield wipers. It didn't even have provision for them, so I made a set out of brass wire. It was one of those situations where once you noticed their absence, you couldn't "un-notice" it. I'll be posting pictures eventually, I'm just waiting to finish some passenger cars I'm painting to go with it so I can show them too.
KriegslokBR52
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I think even recent models from high end manufacturers like Broadway Limited lack that "solid look" under the firebox/cab area. Personally i think they can be included in the models and still make the model operational on curves (engines with trailing trucks). But of course this requires some rather devious optical tricks, which the manufacturer doesn't bother with. On my L&NE i included as much detail under the boiler/cab as i could see from pictures:
I think it adds to the overall heaftyness of the model.
KriegslokBR52
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These have got to be in H0(?)
KriegslokBR52
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Taking a little break from H0 gauge. I took an old 0 gauge frame with Delta type trailing truck on my table. The truck was a cast piece with the wheels completely rusted out. The object is to make a new wheel set, cut out the journals from the casting and make a working spring suspension for the new wheel set. The wheels are for a Lionel 700E NYC Hudson:
Today i finished machining a new axle for the wheels.
The jurnals were cut out, flat pieces of brass were soldered in to fill up the space and lastly the jurnals themselves were shaved to make a slot for them to be able to slide up and down inside the truck.
I still have to solder in the backing plate inside the jurnals to keep them in the slots.
The frame looks like All Nation 4-6-2, but obviously with a lot of stuff missing
. My goal here is to extend the frame and make it into a Mountain 4-8-2. I actually still have to mount the wheels on the axle and insulate them at the same time, tbc...
Today i finished machining a new axle for the wheels.
The jurnals were cut out, flat pieces of brass were soldered in to fill up the space and lastly the jurnals themselves were shaved to make a slot for them to be able to slide up and down inside the truck.
I still have to solder in the backing plate inside the jurnals to keep them in the slots.
The frame looks like All Nation 4-6-2, but obviously with a lot of stuff missing
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