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Speaking of BN and F45's, when was the last time F45 or FP45 ran in service with the BN, or even BNSF?

Heres for the F45's..BN never had any FP45's

6600-6625 were returned to lessor by mid 1985 and

6626-6645 were all retired and returned to lessor by decemeber 1986...

6600-6605 were scrapped
6606-6608 went to utah railway
6609-6612 were sold to CN for parts
6613 went to utah railway
6614-6625 were scrapped
6626 went to GATX
6627 went to gatx..then to a tour company..then to WSOR...then to MRL
6628-6639 went to GATX
6640 went to gatx then was sold to NYS&W
6641 went to GATX then Morrison-kneudson(MK)
6642 went to GATX then to NRE
6643 went to GATX and then to MK
6644 went to GATX then to NYS&W
6645 went to GATX and then to MK
 
Heres for the F45's..BN never had any FP45's

6600-6625 were returned to lessor by mid 1985 and

6626-6645 were all retired and returned to lessor by decemeber 1986...

6600-6605 were scrapped
6606-6608 went to utah railway
6609-6612 were sold to CN for parts
6613 went to utah railway
6614-6625 were scrapped
6626 went to GATX
6627 went to gatx..then to a tour company..then to WSOR...then to MRL
6628-6639 went to GATX
6640 went to gatx then was sold to NYS&W
6641 went to GATX then Morrison-kneudson(MK)
6642 went to GATX then to NRE
6643 went to GATX and then to MK
6644 went to GATX then to NYS&W
6645 went to GATX and then to MK

6627 was MRL 391
6635 was MRL 393
6642 became MRL 392
6644 also ended up on MRL as their 390
 
-How quickly were the GN, CB&Q, etc. liveries painted over? The first year or so? Early '80s? Or still in use right up to the BNSF merger?
Freight cars can still be found in the various schemes, but locomotives are a different story.

The last:
CB&Q black bird was an NW2 repainted Sept. 11, 1976.
CB&Q chinese red was GP9 repainted December 29, 1976.
CB&Q Silver was June 1978.
GN Empire Builder orange was an SW1200 repainted May 10, 1977.
GN Simplified orange was an SW1, repainted June 10, 1977.
GN big sky blue was an NW2 494 repainted May 23, 1977.
NP dark green pine tree was an F7A repainted April 1, 1977.
NP Lowey Green was F9A #9802 repainted Feb. 25, 1977.
NP canoe is an intersting story. Originally RS-3 #4064 was the last unit repainted into BN colors on Aug 24, 1977. BUT RS-3 #4082 had been painted to BN, but was repainted back into the Canoe scheme May 26, 1978 in order to re-create a grade crossing accident. Three months later it went to scrap in brand new shiny NP paint.
SP&S cream was RS3 #4064 repainted August 24, 1977.
BNML orange was a GP7 repainted April 29, 1977.
BN mineral red was an F7A repainted July 12, 1976.
CB&Q BN experimental scheme was U23C repainted Aug 27, 1976.

They had just basically finished all this and then the FRISCO merger happened on November 1980 and the repainting started all over again.

-The only BN livery & logo I know of is the green & black w/ white stripes + the loco in my avatar, as below. Did they really stick with this for 20+ years or were there other designs used?
They had a few, but for until the Executive Scheme came out the basic scheme was the same. There were many variation to the cascade green and black scheme. Mostly on where white stripes, numbers, and logos were applied.

-What type of consist would you typically see a BN freight train pulling? All a specific type of car? Mixed? How long and how many engines?
There are as many of those as there are books to describe them... I've seen as many as 8 locos on the point of a train. Coal trains used to come through Denver with three loco's on the point, two in the middle, and three at the rear. I even saw the SD40-2 set with the monster fuel tank car between them one night here in Denver. A bit later there was a train with an NP caboose on the end. If it had not been 1:00 a.m. on a work day I would have chased it to daylight and gotten some pictures.
 
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Heres for the F45's..BN never had any FP45's

6600-6625 were returned to lessor by mid 1985 and

6626-6645 were all retired and returned to lessor by decemeber 1986...

6600-6605 were scrapped
6606-6608 went to utah railway
6609-6612 were sold to CN for parts
6613 went to utah railway
6614-6625 were scrapped
6626 went to GATX
6627 went to gatx..then to a tour company..then to WSOR...then to MRL
6628-6639 went to GATX
6640 went to gatx then was sold to NYS&W
6641 went to GATX then Morrison-kneudson(MK)
6642 went to GATX then to NRE
6643 went to GATX and then to MK
6644 went to GATX then to NYS&W
6645 went to GATX and then to MK

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What of the ATSF 45's? Did they last there long enough to get merged into the BNSF?
 
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What of the ATSF 45's? Did they last there long enough to get merged into the BNSF?
Three F45s made the merger. #s 5953, 5970, and 5975. I think 7 of the original 9 FP45s made the merger, if only by a few days. #91 went to the Wisconsin Central on 1/95. #96 was a run away and wrecked in December 94, so I don't know if it counts for the merger or not.
 
Didn't realise this thread was still alive & kicking! :D Thanks all for chiming in, especially the livery end dates.

Several months on my roster has a little NP rolling stock but no locos, and I haven't seen anything SP&S in N scale. GN stuff is plentiful, as is CB&Q to a lesser extent.
 



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