IC steam / diesel and passenger cars

[lmackattack]

I see alot of pics of the IC E8 diesels pulling the brown and orange smooth side 4 axel passenger cars. I have not seen pics of steam pulling these

Did steam engines ever pull these cars?
if so what years did the 4 axels passenger cars come out/ retire?
when did the heavy weight 6 axels cars retire

Thanks
Trent

 

[UP2CSX]

I doubt that steam pulled any of the brown and orange scheme cars on a regular basis since that scheme was used only on premier diesel powered trains until abut 1954, when all remaining passenger cars were repainted. Steam was pretty well gone from the IC by 1954. It's certainly possible that steam could have been substituted on a name train like the Panama Limited if the diesel power broke down but it would have been rare and I've never seen a picture to back up this supposition.

The IC held on to heavyweight passenger cars right up to when Amtrak took over. If you go to http://www.cbu.edu/~mcondren/MRP/MemphisCentralStation/IC-Memphis-Pass-Pixs.htm, you'll see pictures of IC trains with heavyweight cars up until 1969. I doubt many of these were passed on to Amtrak so they were either scrapped, used as MOW cars, or converted to business cars. Many IC streamlined cars were bought by Amtrak and put in many more years of service before being scrapped. You'd have to track backwards theough an all-time Amtrak roster to find these.

 

[lmackattack]

Thanks for the info Jim

I have searched alot of pics and cant find steam pulling the brown and orange cars? I can find the E8/9s and high hood geeps pulling short trains but no steam. I was just wondering as I have 2 steam, 2 black diesel geeps and a E9 in orange/brown and try to run as prototipical as I can at the club

Thanks
Trent

 

[JWhite]

The IC had one semi-streamlined 4-6-2 Pacific that pulled the train that connected with the City of New Orleans from Louisville. It was train 101-102 and it ran from Louisville to Fulton KY where it connected with the City of New Orleans. The engine was 1146 and it was painted to match the brown and orange cars. It's pictured in Kim D. Tschudy's Illinois Central Railroad 1854-1960 Photo Archive on page 64. It was wrecked in 1951.

Jeff