Gateway Subdivision

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Hey Jerry! Good to see you posting again. While I didn't comment, I followed your progress from the beginning.
I don't remember whether it was Sherrel or Terry who used to refer to the computer as a confuser. Maybe both!
 
Hello Jerry. Welcome back.

I've looked at all of the photos of your doorway entrance problems. Have you ever thought about a slide-in, slide-out section on drawer rollers? It would be installed and removed like any other desk or kitchen drawer. It could be locked in by using barrel bolts on each side.
 


Welcome back Jerry. Great to see your still working on the layout. It’s a definite journey and as long as you enjoy plugging along it can be fun
Thank you Tom, I have been working on the layout this whole time, currently doing landscaping.......
 
Hello Jerry. Welcome back.

I've looked at all of the photos of your doorway entrance problems. Have you ever thought about a slide-in, slide-out section on drawer rollers? It would be installed and removed like any other desk or kitchen drawer. It could be locked in by using barrel bolts on each side.
Thank you RhB, No, I had not thought of that, I like that idea. At this stage of the game, I've got the lift up (more appropriately, swing up) functional, but your suggestion is in my note book of tips & techniques.
 
For that kind of weight and distance, a cable and counterweight would be best.
Hi diesel, the best I can recall from, huh, 4 years ago, the biggest problem with this setup, is that the length of the drawer slides was limited to what the distance is between the top of the main level and the floor, which limits how high it will extend. Then there is the weight. I used aluminum wherever I could and the top piece alone is 15 lbs, not counting the weight of the drawer slides. There were too many negatives adding up with this thing, so I scrapped it for the swing up. I do appreciate your suggestion, thank you........
You make one think! Weedy Liver? 😁
 
Hey Jerry! Good to see you posting again. While I didn't comment, I followed your progress from the beginning.
I don't remember whether it was Sherrel or Terry who used to refer to the computer as a confuser. Maybe both!
Hello Willie, glad to see that you are also still here...always enjoyed your layout. Looking forward to catching up.......
Yeah, I just can't recall who initially said that, but they got it right...😂
So, Sherrel, is he on here or.........
 
After completing the helix, I started building bench work to the right of it and continued around the room. With the swing up completed, the last section to do, is where the bridges will be located, between the door and helix.
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I'm not exactly sure why I initially made it flat across here, but I lowered the support brackets and modified the bench work to accommodate a couple of bridges... That's better, room for bridges.
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On the far left of pic, is two pieces of 1" foam stacked up. Back behind me at the corner is the start of the logging tracks and they are on an incline headed for the helix, so they needed to be 2" above the bench work at this point.
On the right you can see the piece of all-thread attaching the sliver of mainline to the helix base to stabilize it.

This picture from post #48 shows the logging incline better. Thats a piece of brown painted 1x1, one end resting on the WS foam risers, the other end resting on the logging entrance to the helix.
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Yes, I'm doing HO. Right now I'm finishing installing track feeder wires. The layout is 12x16. At 77 years old it can get tough sometimes to work under the layout.
That's a nice size layout. Are you doing DCC? That's my weak spot, the computer end of DCC programing. But I am willing to make that sacrifice because I like how the trains can be controlled with DCC.
 
With the swing up complete, and bench work done to complete the main level, it was installing the last of the foam and lay down cork roadbed. Post #48 shows portions of the foam with the center lines drawn on it for the cork. I had my lay-out designed, so it was a matter of transferring the centerlines off the scale drawing.
Centerlines on, I glued the cork roadbed down with foam safe adhesive. I held it in place with T pins. I used cork throughout the layout except the yard on the main level, here I used the Woodland Scenics track bed, I don't care for it much, I rather prefer the firmness of the cork.
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Thank you Rico....

As I was finishing up the roadbed install, I built the top deck of the logging railroad.
For all the radiuses of curves, I marked and carefully cut strips of card board so the outside edge matched the radius of the curve for marking the centerlines.
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With the roadbed installed, it is time to lay some track down.
I used all Shinohara code 83 nickel silver track. I laid the mainline first, starting with the switches and then fill in with flex track. I never did care much for the, drill a hole in the bench work next to the track, thread a feeder wire down the hole and solder feeder to rail.
Once the switch position had been determined, I marked 3 hole locations with a marker pen. Inside rail, outside rail, and frog...green arrows.
Then I took the switch to the workbench so I could better control the conditions of soldering.
My whole goal during the mainline track install, is reliability electrically, and reliable smooth running at track speed. Track speed for my layout turned out to be 45 scale miles/hour. (Faster than that and the train looked goofy on the smaller radius curves.)
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Here are the tools I used for soldering. The "pen" is a fiberglass scratch pen. I have yet to find anything that will clean like this thing. I've tried using a whole bunch of other stuff to clean with, I went back to the scratch pen. Some care is need though, I used it at the same spot on the workbench, followed frequently with the vacuum. The soldering iron is a Hakko variable temp.
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With the feeder wires soldered and holes drilled in roadbed, install the turnout. Concerning the red feeder on the outside of the rail, by the time you paint and ballast, hard to tell they are there.....
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A group of turnouts ready for install.....
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The Shinohara track has "spike" holes next to each rail, 11-12 ties apart or about every 3 1/4 inches. With the turnout installed, I put in 4-5 spikes to hold it temporarily in place. Final securement will come after all mainline track is laid down.
I never did care for the look of Atlas track and having to secure it with a nail through the middle of the ties.......just my preference......
In the bottom of the photo above, there is a piece of rectangular plastic tube in the middle of the cork. That is where the throw rod from the switch machine goes. This way I am assured that the throw rod will not snag on anything. When the turnout is finally secured, the throw rod doesn't always line up in the middle of the tube, maybe over to one side, even so, it can't snag on some errant piece of foam or cork.
Here are turnouts for the main yard....
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On the subject of reliability, I didn't want contact of the point rails to furnish power for the stock rails. so I soldered jumpers on the point rails, please refer back to post #54 for a review.....
I'm another one modeling the transition era, with first gen diesels, and again, for the reliability factor, I powered the frogs.
 
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