Alcomotive
Grandson of an ALCO Builder
I have decided to take the detailing of my 2 GP60s to the next level and do a special thread on these units showing my progress on the units. They are the special release edition Athearn units with a good start of details but not up to prototype standards.
I have posted pics on the weekend thread if I could figure out how to remove them and put them here I would do it. I made a vain attempt to move all info to this thread.
So I have asked for help from ya'll and got some fast input.
Thanks to UP2CSX and Thoroughbreed for getting me started in identifying some much needed parts to add to the much needed detail.
Josh I need some help....
I have a pair of EMD Demos that do not have the accurate light config or gumball light and the A/C equip on the roof...
notice all the LIGHTS on this thing!
can you help me identify properly and find these items? thx!
Here is the pic I am going by for my units...EMD 5 & 7
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I also have a pic of the rear hood...showing the light horizantal too...
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so Details West for the lights and beacon...I thought it looked like a SP setup but then those other light threw me off... what about the ones in the nose hood? On the outer most side of the horizantals? see this pic below...
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So for starters I will be getting the following:
mentioned by Thoroughbreed:
The ac unit looks like a prime type, avail from walthers, this is ho scale
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/229-2308
mentioned by UP2CSX:
Alco, that setup is the classic SP nose light arrangement except for the headlight on top being horizontal instead of vertical. You can get the SP Mars and big hole red light from Details West. They also have the correct type of amber beacon for the engine as well. The sit conditioners I don't know about but I'm sure someone here does. It will take some nose surgery to get all the lights correct but it's doable, I've done many an SP engine. That horizontal headlight might actually be the toughest part of the project.
I'm a little confused now looking at #5. That's a Pyle Gyralite in the top of the hood mounted horizontally. The headlight and big hole Mars red light are mounted in the low hood. It appears that's standard configuration of these demonstrators but the other picture shows the top mounted lights with shields mounted below the light casing, which you usually see on head lights. It looks like someone just bolted the Gyralite on the top of the hood. Not sure what the deal is there. At any rate, all these parts are avaiable at Details West. You'll just have to figure out which had a high mounted headlight (if any) and which ones had the high mounted Gyralite.
The horizontal mounting of the rear head light was standard GM practice since at least the the GP-35, maybe earlier. Your model should have that feature already.
The outer two lights are larger than normal classification lights. I'm not sure why the GP-50 demo's had these. You can see the knockouts for class lights on that rear shot up near the top but rear class lights weren't normally installed except as a railroad option. I think you can use a fine tip black marker and just draw a circle around the existing class lights to give the effect you want without changing them out.
Thank you guys for getting me started. I will start posting the progress pics as well as pics before I get started. I did at one time make an attempt long ago to try a technique for number boards but have abandoned the idea now will have to re-do it.
Josh you have any input?
I have posted pics on the weekend thread if I could figure out how to remove them and put them here I would do it. I made a vain attempt to move all info to this thread.
So I have asked for help from ya'll and got some fast input.
Thanks to UP2CSX and Thoroughbreed for getting me started in identifying some much needed parts to add to the much needed detail.
Josh I need some help....
I have a pair of EMD Demos that do not have the accurate light config or gumball light and the A/C equip on the roof...
notice all the LIGHTS on this thing!
can you help me identify properly and find these items? thx!
Here is the pic I am going by for my units...EMD 5 & 7
View attachment 7472
View attachment 7473
View attachment 7474
I also have a pic of the rear hood...showing the light horizantal too...
View attachment 7475
so Details West for the lights and beacon...I thought it looked like a SP setup but then those other light threw me off... what about the ones in the nose hood? On the outer most side of the horizantals? see this pic below...
View attachment 7476
So for starters I will be getting the following:
mentioned by Thoroughbreed:
The ac unit looks like a prime type, avail from walthers, this is ho scale
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/229-2308
mentioned by UP2CSX:
Alco, that setup is the classic SP nose light arrangement except for the headlight on top being horizontal instead of vertical. You can get the SP Mars and big hole red light from Details West. They also have the correct type of amber beacon for the engine as well. The sit conditioners I don't know about but I'm sure someone here does. It will take some nose surgery to get all the lights correct but it's doable, I've done many an SP engine. That horizontal headlight might actually be the toughest part of the project.
I'm a little confused now looking at #5. That's a Pyle Gyralite in the top of the hood mounted horizontally. The headlight and big hole Mars red light are mounted in the low hood. It appears that's standard configuration of these demonstrators but the other picture shows the top mounted lights with shields mounted below the light casing, which you usually see on head lights. It looks like someone just bolted the Gyralite on the top of the hood. Not sure what the deal is there. At any rate, all these parts are avaiable at Details West. You'll just have to figure out which had a high mounted headlight (if any) and which ones had the high mounted Gyralite.
The horizontal mounting of the rear head light was standard GM practice since at least the the GP-35, maybe earlier. Your model should have that feature already.
The outer two lights are larger than normal classification lights. I'm not sure why the GP-50 demo's had these. You can see the knockouts for class lights on that rear shot up near the top but rear class lights weren't normally installed except as a railroad option. I think you can use a fine tip black marker and just draw a circle around the existing class lights to give the effect you want without changing them out.
Thank you guys for getting me started. I will start posting the progress pics as well as pics before I get started. I did at one time make an attempt long ago to try a technique for number boards but have abandoned the idea now will have to re-do it.
Josh you have any input?
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