control panels for HO small to medium layouts

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Richard1952

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I am completing a 90 square ft HO layout with 14 Cobalt IP switches plus 4 Atlas snap switches powered by DS52 stationary decoders and 36 DCC Concepts ground signals (green/red). I use Digitrax Zephyr Express as command station and Dual throttle by Digitrax. I plan to run 3-4 trains at one time.
At this stage not added ballast or any scenery.

Would the group comment on the need and benefits of a control panel for a layout with these characteristics. Is this the time to consider adding one?
DCC CONCEPTS designs & sells them but they are quite expensive. Digitrax does not appear to have anything comparable to DCC Concepts,
 
I am completing a 90 square ft HO layout with 14 Cobalt IP switches plus 4 Atlas snap switches powered by DS52 stationary decoders and 36 DCC Concepts ground signals (green/red). I use Digitrax Zephyr Express as command station and Dual throttle by Digitrax. I plan to run 3-4 trains at one time.
At this stage not added ballast or any scenery.

Would the group comment on the need and benefits of a control panel for a layout with these characteristics. Is this the time to consider adding one?
DCC CONCEPTS designs & sells them but they are quite expensive. Digitrax does not appear to have anything comparable to DCC Concepts,
Richard: I would think that you would only need a control panel where you would do some serious switching and that control panel would be just for those particular switches? 3 trains running in a 9'x10' space - you are gonna be busy!

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Richard: I would think that you would only need a control panel where you would do some serious switching and that control panel would be just for those particular switches? 3 trains running in a 9'x10' space - you are gonna be busy!

L8r
I may enlarge another 50 sq ft with some long runs. Digitrax controllers very easy to switch with!
 
Just looked up DCC Concepts custom panels. Pretty impressive looking stuff!
With 18 switches and 3 loco's running in that tight of a space, I, personally, would want the quickest access to switch control as I could get. I've never used DCC controlled switches. How hard/quick is it to use?

My layout is almost entirely manual control and, by the sounds of it, a much different configuration. There is only one little section that I plan to build a control panel for and that's a simple switching section filled with snap switches; a pretty easy task.

What am I trying to say? Up to you, I guess. 🤣 Those Pro panels would certainly add a level to your layout. whether you want, or need one, would be your call.
 
I use the digitrax controller and run three trains as well.
I don’t have a control panel but I do have a track schematic on the fascia that indicates switch position and occupied staging tracks. It’s simply bi-color LED's wired in line with Tortoise switch machines which are thrown right from the handheld throttle. I also use an old iPhone to run trains.
The staging tracks are controlled with toggle switches.
You can see at a glance where trains are and where they’re going.

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Thanks guys for comments!
DCC Concepts Panels are nice but cost $1000-2000 PLUS tariffs & shipping. Too rich for basically LED and central switch control. Already have Ground signal lights (green/red) operated off Cobalt digital switches.
I am enlarging my layout around 2 more walls of room with a lift out bridge at door. This will add track length to space out running 2-3 trains. My current 90 sq ft also has a long run around many ovals and industry sidings. Total sq ft should be 150 sq ft with another long run so 2 trains running easy with Digitrax dual controller.
 
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I am completing a 90 square ft HO layout with 14 Cobalt IP switches plus 4 Atlas snap switches powered by DS52 stationary decoders and 36 DCC Concepts ground signals (green/red). I use Digitrax Zephyr Express as command station and Dual throttle by Digitrax. I plan to run 3-4 trains at one time.
At this stage not added ballast or any scenery.

Would the group comment on the need and benefits of a control panel for a layout with these characteristics. Is this the time to consider adding one?
DCC CONCEPTS designs & sells them but they are quite expensive. Digitrax does not appear to have anything comparable to DCC Concepts,
As someone else mentioned, I think it depends on what type of operation you are planning on doing. By "Running 3-4 trains" at a time, do you mean just running them around in loops or are they going to be doing switching services, and yard drilling, and meeting each other on sidings, type stuff? For switching industries one usually wants the turnout control right there in front of the operator.
 
Thanks guys for comments!
DCC Concepts Panels are nice but cost $1000-2000 PLUS tariffs & shipping. Too rich for basically LED and central switch control. Already have Ground signal lights (green/red) operated off Cobalt digital switches.
I am enlarging my layout around 2 more walls of room with a lift out bridge at door. This will add track length to space out running 2-3 trains. My current 90 sq ft also has a long run around many ovals and industry sidings. Total sq ft should be 150 sq ft with another long run so 2 trains running easy with Digitrax dual controller.
When I got the DCC Concepts estimated pricing I put a stop to considering their panels. Larry Puckett had 3 You Tube videos on making your own panels but prefer to spend the immediate time on enlarging the layout around perimeter of room and doing scenery.
 


When I got the DCC Concepts estimated pricing I put a stop to considering their panels. Larry Puckett had 3 You Tube videos on making your own panels but prefer to spend the immediate time on enlarging the layout around perimeter of room and doing scenery.
LP’s videos are excellent but building his control panels is not a trivial exercise and it too involves some cost for tools, supplies and time to complete for what I see as minor reward now. If operations after the next layout expansion point to some more signaling or a layout panel with LED lights suggested here, I will revisit my decision. Thanks to all for your comments.
 
That’s why I have Digitrax 2 train controller
I have a Digitrax 2 train controller too, but generally can only operate 1 train as a time, and half the time I get mixed up and start the train on the right-hand side when I meant to start the train on the left-hand side (if I'm feeling really tricky I can sometimes manage to have 2 trains pass each other without getting bollixed up, assuming 1 of those 2 trains is just a single streetcar). Are you running 3-4 separate loops "railfan" style, starting them up separately, or is the intent to have a potential of 4 crews operating trains simultaneously (switching etcetera)?

As to the control panel, what is the purpose of the panel? Throwing switches from a central location?
 
I can run 2 trains with the Digitrax dual controller walk round since I have a LONG stretch out 25 ft as a mainline and run the 2nd train around 4 x 8 loop loops. Cobalt IP switches programmed on dual controller and marked on small signs at each switch location. Then ground signals (green/red) are set in series and try to run 2 trains only clockwise.
3rd train run by UT6D by grandson or guest.
Could run a 4th train from Zephyr Express command station , if I wished by a 4the person.
 
As I said in early post, control panel on my layout (before next 50 sq ft expn.) not much value added since I have ground signals tied to cobalts & Atlas switches. If I added a complex ladder yard with multiple crossovers, might revise panel for small piece of layout. But DCC Concepts designed panel FAR TOO expensive for the value added for me.
 
I can run 2 trains with the Digitrax dual controller walk round since I have a LONG stretch out 25 ft as a mainline and run the 2nd train around 4 x 8 loop loops. Cobalt IP switches programmed on dual controller and marked on small signs at each switch location. Then ground signals (green/red) are set in series and try to run 2 trains only clockwise.
3rd train run by UT6D by grandson or guest.
Could run a 4th train from Zephyr Express command station , if I wished by a 4the person.
OK, so you mean potentially as many as 4 trains operating, with you running 2 on loops, then a third on a UT6D and the fourth on the Zephyr Express, totaling 3 operators? Gotcha. I've got a similar amount of operator capacity; in addition to the dual-control DT602D, I've got a couple of UT4Ds and a tethered UT4 with enough cable to go anywhere on the layout, and 2 stations to plug it into at different parts of the room. Although I also recently bought a UT6D and like that a lot--it's handy and compact like the UT4D, plus I don't have to re-acquire the loco every time I start up the layout (and insert & remove the battery every time--I know there's a hack to add a power switch to the UT4D but I haven't implemented it yet). It also seems to have better battery life than the 602D.

I have 60 feet of mainline and about 64 square feet of layout in a 9.5x23 around-the-room space, just recently expanded into a loop, but am not sure I would be able to manage 4 separate trains operating at once; the layout was designed for 2 crews working at opposite ends of the layout. All my turnouts are manually controlled, either via Caboose ground throws, mechanical operating rods under the layout, or direct operation of the points with an uncoupling tool; my layout is very switching-oriented but I enjoy having a loop now, both to test and break in new equipment and identify problem areas and also just for the simple fun of letting trains run while I'm working on something else. I currently don't use signals.

I also have a panel project in the future: I'm planning to add a wye and a staging yard/branch line, and am considering powered turnouts for the wye and 3-4 track staging yard to make it easier to bring trains on and off the main layout (the wye allows trains to enter the layout going either direction, and also allows turning of trains since I don't have any reverse loops or wyes currently: the layout diagram, with staging yard, will look like a backwards "9" with the wye where the tail hits the loop.) I'm considering adding the control panel to allow route selection through the wye and staging yard track selection from within the loop (to avoid having to duck under the lift-out section and enter the staging yard area to throw switches). So I can select a yard track, and either northbound/southbound/loop on the wye, with two button pushes. I have a few Peco twin-coil turnout motors and haven't decided to operate the switches traditionally (using diode matrix to select routes) or via DCC yet. One other stupid panel trick I kind of want to implement is to mount it under the layout deck on a swinging arm that will allow me to swing the panel over and operate it from the layout side or the staging yard side. Alternately, if I just use DCC and a reversing section, I can program some multiple wye/yard routes and use those via the throttle, but there's a part of me that likes the simplicity of a pushbutton.
 
Bill: check out Larry Puckett 3 You Tube videos on how to build a panel from scratch pretty inexpensively. And he will answer questions you might have as you do your own panel plan.
 




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