Building the Walthers Double Track Swing Bridge

[ctclibby]

Found out that the HP printer/scanner does a pretty crappy job with Pix. You don't have a Paper Mill thread ... yet so these could be somewhat usable. Scott/Kimberly-Clark did pretty much only TP and PT. Maria seems to remember barges coming in Bayside, some with whole logs, some with chips. Most went out in trucks. She did not remember any rail loading, and cuz there are no loading doors trackside, I suppose that a few boxes could go in the middle somewhere. Did not get around on the bayside for what was there.

Hope these help!

L8r

 

[ctclibby]

Tom Found some more information. Also, I can not insert pix into DM's, only links of pix. Hmmm. Anyway:

1st is the Everett Pulp and paper mill circa 1928 ( HistoryLink.org ). 2nd is the current Sat of Lowell. Both bends in the river pretty much align and the plant sprawled North into that gravel/brush area I DM'd you about. There are discrepancies. Some searches relate to Puget Sound Paper, others Everett Pulp and Paper, both claim the locals called it the 'Lowell Paper Mill'. Crown is noted as the buyer/take over corp for both. James River did a hostile take over ~1980 from Crown which later became Georgia Pacific. This apparently did not include the Lowell property as it was already flat. They blasted the smoke stack down ~1974 with all the locals watching. So those logs I mentioned in the sloughs/eddies floating around/in mud were at least 15YO by the time I got there in ~87.

Woke up thinking about it and decided a little more searching would not hurt. Boy, glad I don't do this for a living, too many variables that are missing that you have to deduce. Started at HistoricEverett.org ( I think ) and went from there. Think I am done; unless something falls in my lap.

L8r

 

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Tom Found some more information. Also, I can not insert pix into DM's, only links of pix. Hmmm. Anyway:
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1st is the Everett Pulp and paper mill circa 1928 ( HistoryLink.org ). 2nd is the current Sat of Lowell. Both bends in the river pretty much align and the plant sprawled North into that gravel/brush area I DM'd you about. There are discrepancies. Some searches relate to Puget Sound Paper, others Everett Pulp and Paper, both claim the locals called it the 'Lowell Paper Mill'. Crown is noted as the buyer/take over corp for both. James River did a hostile take over ~1980 from Crown which later became Georgia Pacific. This apparently did not include the Lowell property as it was already flat. They blasted the smoke stack down ~1974 with all the locals watching. So those logs I mentioned in the sloughs/eddies floating around/in mud were at least 15YO by the time I got there in ~87.

Woke up thinking about it and decided a little more searching would not hurt. Boy, glad I don't do this for a living, too many variables that are missing that you have to deduce. Started at HistoricEverett.org ( I think ) and went from there. Think I am done; unless something falls in my lap.

L8r

Yes I totally understand. I appreciate these photos very much and have forwarded them off to my friend. Structure building is on hold at least 10 days as we fit the approach bridges into the Swing bridge scene. So he can review these pictures and decide a direction for me to head off to

Right now here is the paper machine building modernized in 1962 minus the weathering as it might be in 1965 that the plan is to go with

While not in proportion the build is a HO scale 272’ long and 70’ to the peak of the sawtooth roof. Or roughly 38” long and 9.75”high real numbers! Because its a back drop facade the depth will only be 2-3””

 

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Todd and Maria

Per Ai response. You’re right about Bayside — it’s a neighborhood name within Everett, located just upland of the waterfront mill site. The mill complex occupied roughly the zone between Pacific Avenue and the waterfront, near where Everett Avenue and N. Marine View Drive meet.


The architecture, tanks, and steelwork in your photos are spot-on for a Crown Zellerbach lineage facility later operated by Scott/Kimberly-Clark, which fits beautifully into your 1965-era PNW theme.

I plugged the pictures of the Kimberly Clark mill you sent and told Ai where this was per your recollections. Don’t make to big an effort but any pictures that are similar to this with tanks, conveyors or even chip piles I’d gladly take. PNM mills only at this time though. I can paste the pictures into Ai and she will interpret them. I want Ai to sketch out an industrial backdrop and was trying to describe what I wanted. That’s when I realized I have your pictures.

She can sketch and I can paint them. This might be fun as I can paint but not even draw a decent stick figure

 

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These are the pictures I added to my backdrop project from Todd and Maria’s collection

This one below says from Alamy

 

[ctclibby]

Hay Tom found additional swing bridge pix. Not exactly what you have but.

Note the derail above the points... This is just North of Everett's Delta Jct.

And one from Kimberly-Clark - more for ambience maybe.

L8r

 

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Hi

The small engine shed for the paper mill yard switcher. It’s been designed for a SW1200 but long enough for a Gp7/9. He has those units and a few RS units. Same building in both. He’s deciding if it will be in the middle or edge of the mill complex or at the end where the trees begin. He mentioned trees and I have enough on my plate with this build. I did get the final dimension I need to build the last approach bridge

 

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Hay Tom found additional swing bridge pix. Not exactly what you have but.
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Note the derail above the points... This is just North of Everett's Delta Jct.

And one from Kimberly-Clark - more for ambience maybe.
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L8r

It’s great they have a switch right on the bridge approach over the water

 

[kjd]

I think the Alamy photo is the paper mill at Willamette Falls in Oregon City, OR. Blue Heron maybe?

 

[Rico]

Hay Tom found additional swing bridge pix. Not exactly what you have but.
Note the derail above the points... This is just North of Everett's Delta Jct.
And one from Kimberly-Clark - more for ambience maybe.
L8r

Todd that catch point derail is a cool detail to add!
I have one somewhere made by Peco, it’s code 100 but I’m sure they make an 83 version.

 

[ctclibby]

I think the Alamy photo is the paper mill at Willamette Falls in Oregon City, OR. Blue Heron maybe?

Paul: Marlin posted those. Blue Heron was destroyed by fire in Jan ( this year, I think ); and google says Willamette is permanently closed FWIW. Still a great place to model if you have the room.

L8r

 

[ctclibby]

It’s great they have a switch right on the bridge approach over the water

Ya, besides Keddie Wye, one of the two I know about in the PNW. There are probably more that I have not found....yet. On top of that ... derail on a bridge? Speed is really slow in that area, you can hop on if you choose it is so slow. Anyway, the approach ( about 400ft ) to the Swing is on concrete piers over the Snohomish River. Guess it is easier to replace that/those vs the Swing.

You also want coal piles. Well, this isn't that, buy maybe paint the gravel/sawdust/chips black. There are two 'loaders' for transfer from piles to barge; one gravel, other is chips; and lots of conveyors....

Also the approach for the Swing is also shown...and no, the Red Lion is not there. Proof that Maps screws stuff up at times....

L8r

 

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Ya, besides Keddie Wye, one of the two I know about in the PNW. There are probably more that I have not found....yet. On top of that ... derail on a bridge? Speed is really slow in that area, you can hop on if you choose it is so slow. Anyway, the approach ( about 400ft ) to the Swing is on concrete piers over the Snohomish River. Guess it is easier to replace that/those vs the Swing.

You also want coal piles. Well, this isn't that, buy maybe paint the gravel/sawdust/chips black. There are two 'loaders' for transfer from piles to barge; one gravel, other is chips; and lots of conveyors....
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Also the approach for the Swing is also shown...and no, the Red Lion is not there. Proof that Maps screws stuff up at times....

L8r

The more I dig into locations and 1960 era things the inaccuracies are many. BUT, this is a fictional story being built so some things right or wrong can fly by as believable